不會

轉貼自01
原文網址
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-10445564-64.html?tag=newsLatestHeadlinesArea.0



Wozniak說:

"我們都聽說過Toyota有加速問題"
"我有很多Prius車型 都被招回過 除了一台新型的沒被招回.
這台新型車加速會變得無法控制(暴走?), 但是只有在巡行車速控制的某種狀態下.
而我可以一次又一次 安全地複製這個現象"

"這是軟體問題, 不是壞掉的加速踏板. 這很恐怖 但至少我還能煞車" 他說道.


"Toyota has this accelerator problem we've all heard about," Wozniak said. "Well, I have many models of Prius that got recalled, but I have a new model that didn't get recalled. This new model has an accelerator that goes wild but only under certain conditions of cruise control. And I can repeat it over and over and over again--safely."

"This is software. It's not a bad accelerator pedal. It's very scary, but luckily for me I can hit the brakes," he said.


這是他在slashdot對此問題的詳細描述
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1430048&cid=29973870

I have owned many Prius's. I currently drive a 2010 one. Let's say that I'm in some place where the speed 85 mph is legal. I can nudge my cruise control speed lever and my speed barely goes up, say from 80 to 81.I nudge at again and again, up to 83. Then I nudge it again and the car takes off, no speed limit. Nudging the cruise speed control lever down has no effect until I've done it about 10 times or more. By then my Prius is doing 97. It's scary because it's so wrong and so out of your normal control. I tested this over and over the night I observed it.

It's scary because you don't think of things like putting the car in neutral when this happens. I am sure you can't turn the car off with the keyless power button, the only option on this model.

Braking does disable this scary cruise control effect. It is a natural response, so the problem is mitigated a great deal.

I have not seen this happen before so I think it's new to the 2010. I have the package which includes parallel parking assist and cruise control distance limiter.


其他
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/toyota_prius_acceleration.html

	回應 chikuang (fang) 所寫
	轉貼自01 原文網址 http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-10445564-64.html?tag=newsLatestHeadlinesArea.0 Wozniak說: "我們都聽說過Toyota有加速問題" "我有很多Prius車型 都被招回過 除了一台新型的沒被招回. 這台新型車加速會變得無法控制(暴走?), 但是只有在巡行車速控制的某種狀態下. 而我可以一次又一次 安全地複製這個現象" "這是軟體問題, 不是壞掉的加速踏板. 這很恐怖 但至少我還能煞車" 他說道. "Toyota has this accelerator problem we've all heard about," Wozniak said. "Well, I have many models of Prius that got recalled, but I have a new model that didn't get recalled. This new model has an accelerator that goes wild but only under certain conditions of cruise control. And I can repeat it over and over and over again--safely." "This is software. It's not a bad accelerator pedal. It's very scary, but luckily for me I can hit the brakes," he said. 這是他在slashdot對此問題的詳細描述 http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1430048&cid=29973870 I have owned many Prius's. I currently drive a 2010 one. Let's say that I'm in some place where the speed 85 mph is legal. I can nudge my cruise control speed lever and my speed barely goes up, say from 80 to 81.I nudge at again and again, up to 83. Then I nudge it again and the car takes off, no speed limit. Nudging the cruise speed control lever down has no effect until I've done it about 10 times or more. By then my Prius is doing 97. It's scary because it's so wrong and so out of your normal control. I tested this over and over the night I observed it. It's scary because you don't think of things like putting the car in neutral when this happens. I am sure you can't turn the car off with the keyless power button, the only option on this model. Braking does disable this scary cruise control effect. It is a natural response, so the problem is mitigated a great deal. I have not seen this happen before so I think it's new to the 2010. I have the package which includes parallel parking assist and cruise control distance limiter. 其他 http://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/toyota_prius_acceleration.html

所以....問題也不是踏板
是定速?😲
英文不太好
不好意思
😊

	回應 sulab (卡樂B) 所寫
	回應 chikuang (fang) 所寫 I am sure you can't turn the car off with the keyless power button, the only option on this model. Braking does disable this scary cruise control effect. It is a natural response, so the problem is mitigated a great deal. 所以....問題也不是踏板 是定速?😲 英文不太好 不好意思 😊

裡面有提到幾個重點: 在他這樣的操作之下(可以輕易複製)，keyless 無法關閉引擎，煞車無法取消定速
但是沒有提到，打到N檔有沒有用........怎麼沒有試試看，打入空檔有沒有用咧?
😰

啊，歹勢，眼拙
"It's scary because you don't think of things like putting the car in neutral when this happens."
"當事情發生的時候，驚恐讓你不會去想到，要將車子打入空檔"
什麼跟什麼啊? 我咧~~~

先說這不是為誰或袒護哪個廠牌

你所說的前幾項實例

你有去認真的看過事情原因嗎

感覺都不是暴衝所引起的吧

所以有幾分證據說幾分話

謝謝

剛看到新聞了
有開記者會
應該是說成清會~~~~😆😆😆
總之推個一乾二淨~~😆😆😆

就算全球的Toyota所有車型都召回,台灣的也不會召回,只要有錯一定是使用者使用不當造成的...

之前開我爸的CAMRY 3.5油門卡過一次

兩百七十匹馬力全由門收不掉還真嚇人

後來是硬踩煞車然後彎腰去撕魔鬼氈的地毯才解除危機

還好晚上比較沒車

不過實際發生的原因是當時一代的海馬踏墊卡到

應該不是踏板設計的問題(如果用原廠地毯應該不會發生)

是說現在除了落地式的油門以外有心理障礙不敢大腳到底

希望TOYOTA如果真的有問題就召回

確認沒問題的話不召回也不需要勉強

不要到時後真有人出事才要行動那就太晚了

	回應 a8140552002 (Ricky) 所寫
	剛看到新聞了 有開記者會 應該是說成清會~~~~😆😆😆 總之推個一乾二淨~~😆😆😆

都說出了台灣都沒有暴衝情況發生,版大,你想可能會召回嗎!!!

當然不會😝

_在台灣 官 商 果然是口徑一致 永遠不會有錯 😆

不會召回~

但如果因輿論壓力而召回的話..

就會召回幫你洗個車~

幹嘛召回!? 頭又大車主應該都不會care啦!🙂

千錯萬錯~ 都是車主的錯 😆

召回?
會呀!!
召回做冷氣健診,😆
外加保養工資9折,😆
還可參加摸彩...😆

	回應 deer5955 (秘魯) 所寫
	召回? 會呀!! 召回做冷氣健診,😆 外加保養工資9折,😆 還可參加摸彩...😆

頭奬是.....................................新的一台爆衝阿提斯!!😆

	回應 deer5955 (秘魯) 所寫
	召回? 會呀!! 召回做冷氣健診,😆 外加保養工資9折,😆 還可參加摸彩...😆

😩再把消費者扒一層皮😩

昨天Toyota官方開過記者會，說台灣用的零件和美國不同，不會召回。

某CAMRY車主爆衝的真實案例
發生在2007年

http://www.wretch.cc/blog/peiyu0808/10323867&tpage=1#trackback4028865